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08 October 2008 @ 01:26 am
Comic Book Couples - Part 1  
My young friend Babs asked me a couple of weeks back who my favorite comic book couples were. You'd think since I have read and still read a lot of comics it'd be easy to name some, but when I really sat down and thought about it, I found that it was a lot harder than I thought it would be. Oh, there are plenty of characters I like, or love even - but we're talking about individual characters. So what about couples? I promised Babs I would think on it some more and get back to her later.

Maybe it's tricky because of how things work in comics. Couples in comic books have a tough time; a lot of them have to face seemingly insurmountable difficulties. "There's always been a shortage of happy, functional couples in comics. Especially superhero stories." my friend Namorita says. "I mean, I loved the Dibny's. And look what happened to them." Even Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson, one of comics' most well-known and well-received couples, aren't married anymore. And here, if you please indulge me, a moment of silence for the Vision and the Scarlet Witch.

You could argue, however, that maybe 'happy' and 'functional' may not always be the kind of couple people enjoy reading about. When I went around asking people who their favorite couples were, names like Daredevil and Elektra, Bruce Wayne and Talia, the Joker and Harley Quinn, were mentioned. All fascinating couples - precisely because of the self-destructive potential behind them.

Here's something else that's kind of interesting: when I went around asking, I got all sorts of answers (some people even named the likes of Superman/Batman and Blue Beetle/Booster Gold) but so far, no one has named Superman/Clark and Lois Lane.

"What if we put it this way," Zombiegwenstacy suggests, "a comic book couple is good when there is something about their relationship that shows us another dimension of each character. You know, if we see another layer or side we haven't seen before." It's a pretty good, workable standard - except couldn't you say the same thing about the dynamic of a villain and a superhero?

So, what makes a good comic book couple for you? Who are your favorites?
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(Anonymous) on October 8th, 2008 02:16 pm (UTC)
Barbara Gordon + Dick Grayson for always.
Hi, ate! You're taking a while! Excited tuloy akong marinig yung sagot mo. :)

-Babs
Lizzy the Destroyer: i demand strawberries[info]existentializzy on October 8th, 2008 02:25 pm (UTC)
Tapos ikaw tsaka si Tim Drake? ^_~
Hi, Babs! Sa totoo lang, napipikon na ko dyan kay Grayson na yan. Bakit hanggang ngayon hindi pa rin sila official ni Barbara? It's so damn obvious how they feel! I mean, sino pa ba? Si Starfire? Puh-lease.
(Anonymous) on October 8th, 2008 02:38 pm (UTC)
:D Mrs. Tim Drake!
Oo nga! I don't like him with Starfire! I think because I don't like the Titans. Hindi ko sila talaga gusto kahit noon pa. Tsaka he and Kory don't have as much history as he and Barbara do.
The Bim: Stark[info]riffology on October 15th, 2008 05:33 am (UTC)
Re: Barbara Gordon + Dick Grayson for always.
How about Ted Korn- Barbara? No go?
Lizzy the Destroyer: pain[info]existentializzy on October 15th, 2008 06:28 am (UTC)
Hm. Ted Kord? I love Ted, I do. But they never really explored that too much - except hint that they had cybersex a coupla times, and I do get a kick out of that. I can see how it might have worked out, since they have a lot in common. Personally though, I can't help but root for Grayson because of their history. I'm sure you agree that history's important, since you like DD and Karen.

Plus we all know that Ted was made for Booster Gold. ^^
The Bim: Stark[info]riffology on October 16th, 2008 02:40 pm (UTC)
Of the two, who's dom and sub?
Lizzy the Destroyer[info]existentializzy on October 16th, 2008 06:04 pm (UTC)
Oh, Booster is sub, no doubt.
The Bim[info]riffology on October 15th, 2008 01:34 am (UTC)
I actually like a lot of couples, and I remember them as when they were together in a particular era, as opposed to the current storyline.

I think my favorite would have to be Daredevil/Matt Murdock and Karen Page, just because they've gone through so much shit together, but in the end, they still were a unit.

In Born Again, it was Karen Page who sold out DD's identity for a hit. She regretted the decision and made her way back to Matt, and Matt forgave her and took her back in.

Years later, during Kevin Smith's run, in Guardian Devil, in an act of atonement of sorts, Karen sacrifices herself for DD, taking the billy club meant for Matt. Of course, DD loses it and he almost commits suicide. In a flashback, he remembers Karen telling him to never stop being DD because she wants a world good enough to raise kids in or something to that effect. This made DD put the gun down and put the mask back on, while remembering Karen tell him "Never stop."
Lizzy the Destroyer: new nihilism[info]existentializzy on October 15th, 2008 06:36 am (UTC)
What makes me feel really bad is that there are still people who consider Karen Page a case of "Women in Refrigerators". That's an unfair description because WiR are supposed to be perfunctory, baseless violent acts that mean nothing - and her death is still one of the most meaningful deaths I've seen.
 
 

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